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Please take 6 minutes of your life to watch this ===> www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWXYoD…

Seriously, too often do I get emails and notes regarding to doing work for a stranger or having a stranger asking permission to use my art, and often their compensation will either be non existent, or potential exposure.

And I know I've made a journal entry about this last year but still it never hurts to remind ourselves of what's happening with our industry.

I can't stress enough of how frustrating it is trying to explain to those who are doing work for free because they're desperate, or those looking for artists to work with but have zero idea how this whole infrastructure operates.

If you are a person seeking an artist/craftsman's time and service, be prepared to offer compensation just as you will be needing to pay after eating at a restaurant, or having a plumber coming into your home to fix your clogged pipes. And if you're new to seeking out the aid of an artist for your project. Be prepared to do the researches necessary on how to fund your goals. Google is an amazing tool in this day and age. And the art community is very small, and us artists are always on neighborhood watch against those who offer 'work'. You are paying for a service that you cannot do, so have some respect for those who spend years practicing and using that trade.

Artists, I'm just gonna bluntly put it out there. Don't be a dumb scrub and take work for free because they said they have no budget but is willing to work with you, and by chance in the future the project will get recognized and elevate your status to MegaPussyDestroyer. That will NEVER happen. Don't EVER take work for free. Like Steve said in the video, their time is precious and so is yours, and if they're not putting the effort to compensate you, what makes you think they'll take you seriously?...

For the exceptions that Stephen mentioned regarding to doing buddy projects on your own time is totally cool, but don't forget to treat your friends on the projects out once in a while, buy pizza, write a thank you card with a penis drawn on it, help them walk their turtles or something. Respect the bros and brodettes who work on pet projects with you, and that will oil the gears of friendship, not bullshitting you.

So keep it smart you art peeps out there, and always have a third eye when approaching 'enticing offers at opportunities of fame'. And if you're not totally sure on what to do, ask someone you know and trust in the industry.

EZ
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EmperorMumble Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013
Gotcha.
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MowenDesigns Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Watched it, totally agree. Thanks for sharing. ^_^
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DeadSpaces Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Couldn't agree with you more! :) Never do free work, especially not in this day and age. We need to be compensated for our efforts. It always boggles my mind why people seem to think they shouldn't have to pay or offer compensation for an artist's time and effort.
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ArtMagix Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
cuz a lot of people still associate art with preschool arts and craft macaroni shit, which they think is just having fun.
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DeadSpaces Featured By Owner Feb 4, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
So very true.
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Kageshinobi Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
Props to this video and for fellow artists spread the word. It's been a major source of frustration for me starting up, running into those occasions where such offers were given, and for some of my fellows, getting into them.

I've learned my lesson pretty well, but now I feel a little hesitant than usual in how to approach other artists because I'm working on a non-profit project with a few others, and we'd like to garner more artist contributors in the future despite our current lack of funds. Though I'm glad that Stephan mentioned the exception of buddy projects or ones for good causes, which gives me some hope that it's not all bad terms for the rest of us who are not trying to take advantage of others in such a way. And, we remember to at least try to do thank you cards and foods and the like too, as you mentioned. :)
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Robo-Shark Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Reblogged this on Tumblr a couple days ago, I love Stephen Silver and his work, talked with him a few times and he's very inspiring, both his artwork and his words here!

It is so true that artists are easily taken advantage of by people who want to get things for free. As I was saying on my Tumblr before, nobody asks engineers or architects to do their art for free. Cartoonists, concept artists, and others deserve pay and respect for their work like anyone else does. The more we work for companies and clients for free, the less of a chance we will have at having a career in what we love. I've learned firsthand how hard it is to compete against people who will work for peanuts (or nothing at all). They bring down everyone else by only further demonstrating to clients that we are not worth being paid for our time and our skills. We can't let them get away with that.

I recently saw some people complaining about how deviantART artists who offer commissions are "sell-outs" and that they're annoying and not "real" artists. Everybody wants to do something they love for their job, how is what we do any different? :\
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ThatSummersGuy Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Hobbyist Digital Artist
Amen. Watched this a day or two ago, and it's a must-see for any creative.
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Conceptbloke Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Never work for free! Only exception I make if its for a close friend or possibly a charity cause and then only if time is available.
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Anmaril Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Well said.
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Spex84 Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013
You mean being an artist _won't_ make me a MegaPussyDestroyer?
Nuts.
My all-time fave is "I love vidjagame stuff. I like your art very much. Could you send me some unreleased, behind-the-scenes game artwork? Oh-- I am a magician, you may have heard of me? *links website*".
I googled the link thinking it was a weird malware thing, but....nope. Legit magician.
:P
I ignored it, but wanted to reply "Dear sir, I LOVE MAGIC and would gladly expose myself to legal action by sending you some Top-Secret art. In return, I ask only that you magic up a suitcase of money for me. Dollars are nice, but gold bullion would be awesome!"
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ArtMagix Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Those words just gave me cancer...
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ChalkTwins Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
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This needs to be given to every artist, writer, designer, and person who creates for a living. I think most of us have a story or two were we learned this the hard way. For me, right out of high school, someone said they wanted to use my art for greeting cards. They said they didn't have the money to pay me upfront for my designs but I would get paid every time one of my cards was purchased. I thought "Ermergerd! Someone wants my art! I'm so kewl!" Of course I never saw I dime. None of the other artists or writers did.

I always thought it was weird that art has become so undervalued that many people think they can get it for free. But I think it is because we as artists haven't banned together to prevent it. We need to stick together and say as a united front that not paying someone for their time and work is stealing.
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ArtMagix Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
YEA it's crazy how a lot of business people will take advantage of aspiring craftspeople, and promise them potential payment and fame. Next time if someone asks for potential compensation, ask them in return for a website design, and if you like it, you'll think about paying them. THEN ask those motherfuckers how they wanna do a deal.
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ChalkTwins Featured By Owner Feb 3, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
Exactly. I don't think they realize how demeaning it would be if someone basically said their skills are not worth paying for. We have had problems with checks being "in the mail" as well. I don't know who these people are that think they can get away with crap like that.
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carol-colors Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013
gah, if I had a nickel for every thank you card with a penis drawn on it.
/puts on MegaPussyDestroyer T-Shirt

It's a good point. I mostly color, for practice and fun (not even that good at it, but it makes me happy). I pick what lines I do and I do learn from it. I AM AN AMATEUR but I have been contacted a few times to color projects for "exposure" or "future profit" .... it never sounds right and I never do. I hope they kept asking people until they broke down and paid someone for their time (other than compliments about how badass you look in that T-Shirt).
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philorion7 Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Student General Artist
absolutely true. i get so tired of getting of people asking for free shit all the time. they have no idea the true value of art!
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SkeletonMurderer Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Student General Artist
This is what contracts are for. Commissions need a paper trail (at the very least a bill of sale) or a transaction simply never happened.
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ArtMagix Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Ever seen those contracts where it says 'x amount of payment' on line 2, then somewhere down line 546 saying: disregard line 2, there is no payment.

Because there's TONS of 'contracts' out there like that.
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SkeletonMurderer Featured By Owner Feb 23, 2013  Student General Artist
Which is why it's important to know what to look for without it needing to go to court (which is what happens with contracts that are brazenly crooked). At worst companies (corporations especially) like to prey on the ignorance and poverty of new artists to get them to legally waive the rights and residuals to their work by paying them a low flat-rate. If the artist is smart they read and renegotiate the contract to something fair and the company will either grudgingly accept or pass altogether in lieu of a scab to do it for peanuts. I'd say it's less about not being paid and more about being educated on your business rights as an artist. The person that works for free and the person that sells their work for next to nothing are equally ignorant.
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Warmics Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Thanks, great message!
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KnightofSpades Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013
I agree. I always pay for my commissions.
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The-Shmooze Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013
Thank you for this. I know this will help a lot of people.
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Kamakru Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013
Well, I have to say that my friends don't have to help me with anything to get free penis drawings, but there will always be some sort of thank-you treat at least.
I'm definitely sharing around this video. He rants MUCH better than I could about this!
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ArtMagix Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
what? if your friend doesn't appreciate your precious dick drawings, DONT be their friend!!!
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Kamakru Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013
Oh no, they love them! Long time.
I once drew a marvelous rooster standing on a proud wood. The pun was well received, and wasn't erased from the hallway white board for weeks.
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Sythgara Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
oh, i see you saw that too.
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ArtMagix Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
can't see my forehead...
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Sythgara Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
:p who's the geek now.. Don't be sorry angry about it or you'll get wrinkles XD
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ArtMagix Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
it's fine i just rub chocolate on my skin
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Sythgara Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
Then you'll live foreeveeeer
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ArtMagix Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
sweet sweet chocolate, I've always hated it....
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Sythgara Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
So* auto correct fail
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Astral-Muffin Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Student Digital Artist
wow it kinda surprises me how many people has posted this. I knew this kind of stuff happened but I was not aware it is (apparently) happening THAT much. And even less coming from the big companies...
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two-for-flinching Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013
oh rad you can +fav journals now. awesome
this is awesome.
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ArtMagix Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
awesome is awesome. everything is awesome. awesome!
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enigmaticworld Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Professional Artisan Crafter
"write a thank you card with a penis drawn on it, help them walk their turtles or something" that completely cracked me up :lol: Nice journal, thanks for the link n' shit :]
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ArtMagix Featured By Owner Jan 31, 2013  Professional Digital Artist
[link] <=== a song for your reward. Spread the wisdom.
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enigmaticworld Featured By Owner Feb 1, 2013  Professional Artisan Crafter
Uhh... that would be more like it: [link]
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